Move to St. Petersburg from Kiev
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Total 21.5 hours and 175-178 UAH. (platz + sid) and 192-200 UAH (platz + parade ground).
That is, through Moscow (and this is 1500 kilometers) for clean time is slightly less than 53-54 is through Belarus (1100 kilometers). And at a price almost identical – even on a reserved seat!
the same 170 UAH., but at the same time you win 6 hours of walking around Moscow!
For example, such a big difference in prices between Kiev-Gornostaevka and Kiev-Teryuha is due not to the high price of Gornostaevka-Teryuha, but to the fact that when the itinerary turns from an internal (Kiev-Gornostaevka) to an interstate (Kyiv-Teryuha), then on an interstate. the tariff is recalculated ALL kilometers of the route, including by its “own” country, and the interstate tariff of UZ is as high as we say for Belarus (and the fact that its domestic tariff is low in UZ – in this case it does not matter)
If speed is important and not price, then 159d + 1d, it will turn out at 16-00 from St. Petersburg and at 8-00 already in Kiev 🙂
& # 062; option – to extend the Metropolitan Express Kiev-Moscow before.
& # 062; Peter, there just in the morning from Moscow is free.
& # 062; unused string under a high-speed train. It would turn out.
& # 062; Departure from Kiev at 20-00 and arrival in St. Petersburg by noon.
This is really the best option.
& # 062; the ligament looks like this: at 13-40 from St. Petersburg by the 49th train, c.
& # 062; Moscow jumped to the 21st.
The price of the reserved card Grebenka-SPb is only 120 UAH. Though today go :)!
PRICE of reserved seat Kazatin-SPB only 110 UAH.
PRICE of reserved seat Kazatin-SPB only 124 UAH.
this humor is not funny?
& # 062; From Kiev to St. Petersburg is optimal.
& # 062; the ligament looks like this: at 13-40 from St. Petersburg by the 49th train, c.
& # 062; Moscow jump to the 21st.
And yet, instead of 10 carriages coupe and St. in the table. An express train would need only 8 of the above-named cars and two third-class SUVs (no more than $ 25 from St. Petersburg to St. Petersburg, no more than $ 50 from St. Petersburg).
& # 062; humor is not that funny? in fact, if you want so.
& # 062; save – you have to go up to Gomel (to Chernigov and then.
& # 062; from Chernigov to Gomel, in the amount of somewhere 23 UAH will work), and.
& # 062; there is a sedentary (not common) car on the Gomel-Peter train,
& # 062; ticket only 87 UAH.
In total, we must somehow spend the night in Chernigov, a day to walk in Gomel, then to come at one o’clock in St. Petersburg. In my opinion, the wave of electric trains in Belarus will be faster (and cheaper).
& # 062; is transformed from internal (Kiev-Gornostaevka) into.
& # 062; interstate (Kiev-Teryuha), then on interstate. tariff.
& # 062; ALL kilometers of the route are recalculated, including by.
& # 062; “their” country, and the interstate tariff of UZ is the same.
& # 062; high, as we say in Belarus (and the fact that it has its own.
& # 062; internal tariff is low – in this case, no value.
& # 062; crossing the border, “but simply another tariff for everything.
& # 062; The route begins to apply by looking at the price.
And from Kiev to Taganrog the reserved seats in the 18-ke – 105 UAH.
another one from Ilovaysk to Russia. The prize is 25 UAH. 🙂
& # 062; and look at the reserved seat rate in the near-term interstate.
& # 062; train 18 Kiev-Adler to Dnepropetrovsk.
& # 062; the train costs 60 hryvnia, but being bought in Russia – it is.
& # 062; The same thing costs 680 rubles.
& # 062; intra-Ukrainian rail travel to Russians is cheaper to send.
A photocopy of the passport to Ukrainian acquaintances, so that the latter.
Bought tickets in Ukraine.
& # 062; & # 062; option – to extend the Metropolitan Express Kiev-Moscow before.
& # 062; & # 062; Peter, there just in the morning from Moscow is free.
& # 062; & # 062; unused string under a high-speed train. It would turn out.
& # 062; & # 062; departure from Kiev at 20-00 and arrival in St. Petersburg to.
& # 062; This is really the best option.
& # 062; & # 062; From Kiev to St. Petersburg is optimal.
& # 062; & # 062; the ligament looks like this: at 13-40 from St. Petersburg by the 49th train, c.
& # 062; & # 062; Moscow jumped to the 21st.
& # 062; Yah! Optimal under the table from St. Petersburg. express pick up.
& # 062; the current timetable is 167 from SPB-Moscow at 18.28, c.
& # 062; Moscow 23.15. And further on the present table.express.
& # 062; And yet instead of 10 cars coupe and sv in the table.express.
& # 062; it would be necessary only 8 of the above-named cars and two third-class cars.
& # 062; SITTING (not more than $ 25 from K. in M., not more than $ 50 from K. v.
159 Peter-Moscow – & # 062; SE. Time in Moscow for almost two hours, enough to move from the station to the station.
Travel time is 17 hours: Depart. 16.00 – arr. 8.00.
For money – not much, almost the plane.
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not needed. necessarily zagran. documents for “no-passport children.” According to the birth certificate, the exit does not roll.
And yet Maxim train Kharkiv-St. Petersburg whose formation?
& # 062; intra-Ukrainian rail travel to Russians is cheaper to send.
A photocopy of the passport to Ukrainian acquaintances, so that the latter.
Bought tickets in Ukraine.
& # 062; It is written �-� (firms) cost 330 ?? and cheaper, back.
& # 062; it is written ���. and the cost of 350. (not written firms) and more expensive. And.
& # 062; The only difference is the cost of a reserved seat.
And generally speaking, and so it is understandable – once in a ticket written by firms., And in another – no 🙂 Dorogovizna firmcha is displayed just in a reserved seat.
In my opinion, the path is cheaper than a reserved seat, does not exist 🙂
& # 062; Peter was not looted, I planted it somewhere.
& # 062; Kiev-St. Petersburg? at what time? I’m on the bus schedule.
& # 062; I can not find him at all.
Hardly there is such a bus, Moscow does not justify itself.
Call the Central Bus Station and find out.
& # 062; Kiev-St. Petersburg? at what time? I’m on the bus schedule.
& # 062; I can not find him at all.
C Central Bus Station http // bus.com.ua /
Bus previous message.
& # 062; In my opinion, the path is cheaper than a reserved seat, does not exist 🙂
2) by electric trains with transfers (you can get to Moscow with 4-5 transplants, Leningrad a little further).
& # 062; on tickets, and where to buy them ?! very important.
& # 062; Peter. & # 062; In my opinion, the ways are cheaper than the reserved seats, not.
& # 062; there is 🙂 There is: 1) on foot;
The whole story began with such a case. I had to go from Moscow to Leningrad. I had tickets to the second car. I came to the Riga railway station, went to the train, and the first three cars in the composition there.
& # 062; once traveled by this train in 2007.
& # 062; adults can have problems with customs.
if you take in advance (for a month and more)
As for the road, then really, the train is more tiring to go, especially through customs.
& # 062; needed. necessarily zagran. documents for “passportless.
& # 062; children. “According to the birth certificate, the exit does not roll.
we are students, money (as always) is scary little 🙁
Can, somehow with transplants or on passing or taking place?
& # 062; Dnepropetrovsk to Peter?
& # 062; Dnepropetrovsk to Peter? we are students, money (like.
& # 062; always) terribly little: (maybe somehow with transplants or.
As far as I know, the cheapest way is to get there so that the border crosses on foot.
To do this, you need to know the timetable for suburban trains.
For example (I do not have a timetable) from Kiev to Chernigov, then by a suburban train (possibly by bus) to Gornostaevka. By the way there is a diesel train Chernigov-Gomel, but it turns out international.
In short we cross the border on foot. There’s Teryuha station. From it to Gomel by any suburban train or bus to Gomel. And from Gomel to Peter is already possible by train. I think the price will not change between the Belarusian and Russian borders, because customs control (I’m afraid and border guards) no.
Nobody knows at which stations on the way there is a change in the locomotive?
it seems, with the catacombs, as well as with the ancient streets (until the new governor has demolished all nafig, sorry), Gogol and an excellent people – no problems;)
you need to build a good company. one I do not want to step over the border.
You, by chance, do not know how much time such a journey will take?
Nobody knows at which stations on the way there is a change of locomotive? ”
& # 062; gather a good company. one I do not want to border.
& # 062; step over. You, by chance, do not know how much time.
& # 062; such a journey will take?
I had to cross the border only once. But this border was with Poland. It took about 1 hour.
It all depends on the number of people who are currently trying to cross the border on foot.
Let’s say a person checks the document and things in 3-5 minutes. It is necessary to increase 2 times, because two checkpoints: the Ukrainian Customs and the Belarusian Customs.
& # 062; further by a suburban train (possibly by bus) to.
& # 062; Gornostayevka. By the way there is a diesel train Chernigov-Gomel, but.
& # 062; it is obtained internationally.
Diesel is quite cheap. Greene 30-40 maximum, if not mistaken. Even before Gomel, there are buses from the station, 5-6 times a day, it seems.
& # 062; Answers please write to the e-mail address. Thank you.
Well, you know the sense of zobochenni: D.
PS. for a long time already in St. Petersburg to be called.
LOOSE 12.04 2 12.06. 00 126.
CHERNIGOV 13.06 20 13.26 00 209.
GORNOSTAYEVKA 14.33 24 14.57 00 275.
KARAVTSOVKA TARIFF BORDER – – 281.
TERYUKH 15.20 33 15.53 00 293.
GOMEL PAS 16.26 25 16.51 00 320.
ZHLOBIN 18.01 5 18.06 00 406.
ROGACHEV 18.46 3 18.49 00 433.
BIKHOV 19.34 2 19.36 00 482.
MOGILEV 1 20.28 28 20.56 00 533.
2100225 SHKLOV 21.37 2 21.39 00 568.
ORCHA CENT 22.17 16 22.33 00 607.
VITEBSK 23.51 26 00.17 01 691.
0021202 GEORGIA (GR TARIFF BOUNDARY – – 774.
2004550 NEVEL 2 02.55 4 02.59 01 794.
2004508 NEW SCHOOLS 03.41 25 04.06 01 838.
2004.052 LOQUE 04.52 2 04.54 01 894.
2004560 ESSENTIAL 05.26 2 05.28 01 919.
2004527 DEDOVICHI 06.20 4 06.24 01 982.
DAY 06.50 8 06.58 01 1014.
SALTSY 07.30 3 07.33 01 1053.
2004608 UTORGOSH 07.49 7 07.56 01 1071.
2004003 S-PETERSBURG-VIT 10.46 – – 01 1259.
& # 092; 54 Kiev-St. Petersburg by means of transferring the border to Chernigov and Gomel. I suggest that the Belarusians sit down in Teryuha and check everything before Gomel. Just 30 minutes is saved. And from Chernigov to ermine on the road and so passport control is passed.
BATHEZKA 18.20 2 18.22 00 147.
UTORGOSH 18.57 2 18.59 00 188.
SALTSY 19.15 2 19.17 00 206.
DSTN 19.51 4 19.55 00 245.
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CURRENT LISTS 21.37 2 21.39 00 365.
2004508 NEW SCHOOLS 22.24 23 22.47 00 421.
2004550 NEVEL 2 23.31 5 23.36 00 465.
0021202 GEORGIA (GR TARIFF BORDER – – 485.
TEACHOYANKA BYCHIKHA. 4 23.16 00 507.
Teacher ‘s Teacher’ s Teacher ‘s Depression 4 23.48 00 540.
VITEBSK 00.16 22 00.38 01 568.
ORCHA CENTER 01.57 20 02.17 01 652.
Shklov 02.57 2 02.59 01 691.
MOGILEV 1 03.39 18 03.57 01 726.
BHYOV 04.47 6 04.53 01 777.
LUDCHITSY TEHSTOYANKA 4 05.08 01 790.
STAROSELSK TEHSTYANKANKA 7 05.36 01 813.
ROGACHEV 05.50 2 05.52 01 826.
ZHLOBIN 06.22 3 06.25 01 853.
GOMEL PAS 07.34 26 08.00 01 939.
TERYUHA 08.35 35 09.10 01 966.
KRAVTSOVKA * TARIFF BORDER – – 978.
GORNOSTAYEV 09.34 30 10.04 01 984.
CHERNIGOV 11.23 20 11.43 01 1050.
VEREUCHCH TEHSTOYANKKA 16 12.36 01 1095.
NEUGHN 13.06 2 13.08 01 1133.
KYIV PASS 14.40 – – 01 1259.
KYIV PASS 14.40 332 20.12 01 1259.
SOFIA 09.25 – – 03 3237.
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control operations.
Entry to Russia or Belarus is possible by a simple civil passport of Ukraine. At the border, you will need to fill out the migration card, and when you return to Ukraine, the card must be returned. The card confirms the period of stay on the territory of Russia, Belarus. No marks, within 90 days, while arriving in Russia, Belarus do not need.
1. � Litak z SND, tell me, sho im coming;
2. Much of these times in the hour. Perti on the sound of the controls.
And they will be admitted to the civil passport regardless of the country of arrival.
& # 062; Belarus do not need.
Yes, a long time ago. This does not apply to those who plan to stay in Russia for more than 90 days.
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