Comments on permanent residence in the Belgian forum
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Once in a while you will be called to a carpet with documents confirming that your income has not changed, and all the due payments are systematically paid.
that is, if it is written that for a program of a financially independent person it is necessary to have a minimum of 2000 $ of income – this means that in reality the earnings should be at least 2 times higher?
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Well, at least, it’s warm here. And the residence permits are given for the purchase of real estate, and the real estate is very cheap (you can buy a decent house for 10-20 thousand). Well, the EU is close, if there is a visa.
And so … I want to normal Europe anyway. But I do not see any ways yet.
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I also want to go to a normal Europe and I do not see any ways, or there is not much of a stocker’s earnings before this way.
But people somehow go, somehow live, probably there are some options. Is it really all so rich?
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Are not you ashamed to cash in on your own?
You can not answer, it was a rhetorical question.
Speech about human contacts with 4 cards, but did not help.
(If once you see from me advertising helped – ban immediately: they broke me in. I will not do this myself at gunpoint, and I will not dissuade others to death!)
Helper (any) – are the evil and fecundity of hell without exceptions. So write it down!
But people somehow go, somehow live, probably there are some options. Is it really all so rich?
There are windows of possibilities. There is. In many countries, there is the possibility of working at a level not lower than the average (somewhere in the country, depending on the amount of 1.5 or 2 average salaries) even though in my own shop (I know those who even settled in their own individual enterprise) and get a blohkard ).
The lower the average salary in the country – the more budgetary, accordingly it turns out on a circle, as a rule (taking into account the cost of living).
But – many nuances and pitfalls. (For example, Cyprus in the EU, but not in the Schengen area – and to go to the continent will have to have a visa each time).
With the diploma they will be given a term for employment in six months or a year in the country – so there is an incentive.
Plus, there is a possibility in the student community to find a life partner (only you have to remember that Europeans are very reluctant to marry, especially on migrants) and then all the difficulties will be quickly resolved.
So – all at your own risk. The aboriginal will be fined in a bad situation, because they are citizens, and at the very best you will be sent out with a long (if not lifelong ban on entry into the EU), at worst they will be imprisoned and / or fined to the cosmic amount, so it was not.
get a club on the ridge, be sure to watch the cameras or phone numbers of friends (you have to keep everything all the same – it will be a ticket to a new life), ride in a paddy waggon, get a dozen other fines (you also need to protect the protocols – as the apple of your eye), or a conditional term and real) and with such a set to break through to the West (only there are risks if the time is right – that the passport will be taken away, and if you do not pay the penalties, the police will put the ban on leaving, and then you have to make goats’ tracks, risking to hit bullets or deadline already unlawful border crossing). Bonus in case of obtaining a safe haven – good: a permanent card at once, allowance, payment of travel, housing. But whether you need it – I do not know. I will not recommend it.
So this option – just for the extreme, who have little in the life of adventure.
Especially if with family and children.
(And in rich countries it’s not even worth thinking about 5-6 thousand / month, and the prices for food are not a guideline, for example, in Germany they are cheaper than in many cheaper countries, but services are several times more expensive, for example, and it is sharpened at the prices all on average according to the statistics of 3600 euros / month of salary – so that they are enough, but there are no surpluses left – and there with 2-3 thousand / month you will feel very uncomfortable).
You just need to understand that you are not there, unlike aborigines or political refugees, but you will not get a benefit – but you will fly out and lose a lot of money, nerves and time priceless in life – easily.
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Insurance of 200 euros a month is what a beast? We have an Austrian Uni, 350 euros a year, a family one (that is, in our case, for two).
We the first year somehow managed to 400 euros a month to live together … And nothing. Now with all repairs and holidays more than one and a half does not happen. Serbian cheapness is a myth. The technique here is more expensive, gasoline is the same as in the EU, food too. So, I see the numbers bloated.
Rent housing here, yes. Here you can not argue.
All such food here is much cheaper than in France (compare with the suburbs of Paris – Viljuif, where also not very expensive in Auchan were bought) or Belgium (Ghent-Bruges), cheaper than in Vilnius, Potsdam or even in Warsaw. But on the other hand in all these places I have not lived more than two weeks. And in Serbia already a whole month and a half. I take our standard purchase for a week, most of which is on the market in Novi Sad. Even more profitable than Minsk prices, there is much to buy, especially if you take vegetarian products – we have a network of Khrana’s Health here all over the city, they like the range and prices very much for these different pieces. About technology and the rest agree, yes =)
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We moved in October from Minsk to Novi Sad. Warm, beautiful, large half of November pleasant sunny weather, about a week it was up to +14. In the center of a really European city, cozy neighborhoods with new buildings, parks, alley with old Hungarian mansions, the Danube has beautiful nature, near the national park and even the sandy beach is well equipped. On the bike in 50 minutes you can get to the most remote parts after the other end of the city. We really like it after Minsk.
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I’m just keeping track of the expenses, and monthly the amount is about 200-250 euros. In the markets almost do not happen, because I do not like them, it’s easier to buy everything in a supermarket in one place than to wander around looking for tomatoes that are more colorful. When the season of procurement, and I buy pepper tomatoes for lecho and lyuta for adzhika, it is necessary to go to the market – for me it is stress.
In Budapest for three days I caught that the level of prices in stores is exactly the same, but for cheese-sausages even lower. And wine is much cheaper. Serbian winemakers generally zazhralis. A friend from the Czech Republic visits us regularly and also tells us that the prices for food are the same.
Here is the above correctly written: the food, after all, is by no means the largest item in expenditure, unfortunately.
And there are a lot of Belarusians here, yes, and I like everything very much. And residence permit for you free of charge practically. And the Russians always have to help the Serbs, including financially, to take out 150 euros from their brother and put them down.
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There are still all sorts of subtleties and nuances, greatly multiplying the costs. Again, in every country their own. For example, in Germany, if you do not have a basic job and did not manage to register as an entrepreneur, then the medical insurance (and its availability is an obligatory point for staying in most countries) you will have exclusively private. Ask how much it costs.
Without official work, it’s almost impossible to rent decent housing. Means, it is necessary either to live in multistoried slums on the outskirts or to overpay exorbitantly. By the way, they will not give credit, and the credit card will have to be begged for a long time.
While there is no language, in all instances you will have to carry an interpreter. Every one of his calls is money, every hour is money, every page of the document is money. In gos.ucchesteniyah almost always refuse to speak even in decent English, and the bellowing of “my is your poor understanding” in general, no one will listen.
Language, by the way, too, will force to teach. For entrepreneurs and other business – also at their own expense without any discounts and returns. This is about 600 euros / month for six months.
Such moments – a cart and a cart. Where an officially employed person will pass by an easy walk, all others “business” they will stumble, fall, break bones and constantly overpay for everything at times. And taxes, by the way, are considered from the sum of the general receipts, instead of net profit. And the more revenues, the higher the current taxes. So it turns out that sometimes it’s cheaper to work “on uncle & quot; and get to the account of 3,000., than to be a “free bird” with receipts of 30 thousand.
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In Budapest for three days I caught that the level of prices in stores is exactly the same, but for cheese-sausages even lower. And wine is much cheaper. Serbian winemakers generally zazhralis. A friend from the Czech Republic visits us regularly and also tells us that the prices for food are the same.
Here is the above correctly written: the food, after all, is by no means the largest item in expenditure, unfortunately.
And there are a lot of Belarusians here, yes, and I like everything very much. And residence permit for you free of charge practically. And the Russians always have to help the Serbs, including financially, to take out 150 euros from their brother and put them down.